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Dec 28, 20216 min read

Ghislaine Maxwell Trial

Updated: Jan 12, 2022

Dec 28th Trial Notes




The #MaxwellTrial jury question that Judge Nathan called incomprehensible was, If we find that the defendant aided in the transportation of Jane's return flight from NM, but not her flight TO NM... can we find her guilty of the 2d element of Count 4? 1/x


Since the juror had, earlier on Monday, asked to get all of pilot Dave Rodgers' testimony, it might seem they're drilling into specific flights, to and from NM, and how the law applies to each of them. But why did the SDNY prosecutors leave the case so narrow?


#MaximumMaxwell: Jury Deliberations Resume With White Board and White Wash Of Flight Logs, Questions on New Mexico - and Delaware. Tale Told From The Inside





OK - in US v. #GhislaineMaxwell, another day of jury deliberations begin, with Maxwell's two sisters in the front row of Courtroom 318 and the prosecutors nowhere to be seen. Inner City Press will live tweet the day, thread below



Now in the case docket, Maxwell's lawyers' letter to Judge Nathan asking for "additional instructions to correct apparent errors in the jury's understanding of Counts Two and Four." So far, no US Attorney's Office response in the docket...


#CourtCaseCast: In US v. #GhislaineMaxwell Trial After Jury Asked Of New Mexico Flights, Now Defense Says Judge Nathan Erred - Inner City Press story:




The sisters have been here a lot, whether an announcement or not. The rest of the time, are they hanging out in that nearby law library where the staged photo was taken? We can tell something (a note?) is about to happen with the lawyers assemble. Like now...

Replying to @innercitypress

Interesting how her sisters are there. Who gets told if there will be a decision? Or does everyone get told at the same time?



Here's fast story about the letter - now lawyers assembling, feed continues below - "After Jury Asked Of New Mexico Flights, Now Defense Says Judge Nathan Erred" - Inner City Press story:




Update of 9:47 am - Lawyers are assembling. Bobbi Sternheim, prosecutors, Leah Saffian in front row. But still no Maxwell, nor Judge Nathan. Both should be coming. Might Judge Nathan set US a deadline to reply on instruction-Gate? Or have they already, UNdocketed?



It begins. Judge Nathan: I got the defense's letter this morning. I haven't heard from the government. Maxwell is at the defense table: black sweater, black mask. Assistant US Attorney asks that courtroom door be closed, says "Just being cautious."



AUSA: There is no reason to be speculating about what the jury is thinking. Sending back the [proposed] additional instruction would just compound the problem. Judge Nathan: The defense's proposal speaks about Count 2 which wasn't asked about.



Judge Nathan: I want to make more of a record of extending the deliberations by an hour. I want to make clear: I am doing this because of the expansion of Omicron. [Inner City Press: Then why still no public call-in line? And what of the 3 day DC trip?



Judge Nathan says she will speak later today about deliberations going forward. Speed up or pause, due to Omicron? Defense speaks, not (yet) on that, but to make a further record (for appeal) about their proposed additional instruction to the jury.



Judge Nathan: I'm not going to give them an incorrect instruction. Judge goes on to refer again to Omicron. UNclear if she may mean suspending deliberations (?!?) or having them double down / speed up until a decision is reached. She's left the courtroom.



Podcast of Dec 28-1: Deliberations in US v #GhislaineMaxwell to speed up? Or 3d hiatus? Only Juxge Nathan knows - 5th letter?



DIRTY DOXING? Prince Andrew Contests Virginia Roberts Giuffre's Colorado Residence By Putting Into Public PACER Docket Her Voter Records and More - @SDNYLIVE Inner City Press story:




Here's the Inner City Press story with one of the exhibits Prince Andrew filed, labeled "This is a privately owned genealogy website using a purchased copy of the Colorado voter list." Not too classy...



I hear you but... even a Prince, when subject to these charges and with the photo not credibly disputed, should keep track of the personal information about his accuser that his lawyer(s) file on the public docket. But we'll see. https://twitter.com/jane_hurghada1/status/1475894029858578444…

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COVID AND THE COURTS, @SDNYLIVE

Edition: In #SDNY Gun Jury Trial Set for January 4, Now Unvaccinated Cooperator Is Exposed To COVID So Conference Requested - Inner City Press story:


https://twitter.com/innercitypress/status/1475903862133465090?s=20



I hear you. I just wanted to emphasize that a party to litigation is response to know what his or her lawyer is doing (for example, doxing the accuser). At least that's the rule here

Replying to @innercitypress

Oh, prepare yourself Matt, the trolls for Prince Andrew are next level.. they are just warming up I’d say. Best not to feed them



In the November 16 court proceeding (in Giuffre v. Dershowitz), they said Wexner would be deposed on Dec 17 - and his wife, too:

Replying to @Tinkeringhalo2 and @innercitypress

Was Wexner deposed?



I'm saying that Prince Andrew buying voting records from a "privately owned genealogy website" and putting them entirely unredacted into PACER is sleazy - or, to put it another way, entirely inconsistent with how Judge Nathan has been redacting Andrew's name

Replying to @innercitypress @sdnylive and @SubstackInc

Kindly explain. Are you saying that correcting crucial but misleading information about an accuser's secondary residence - when there is no secrecy or privacy about her permanent residence - is a case of what you call 'dirty doxing'?



OK - now at 4:45 pm in US v. #GhislaineMaxwell, the lawyer are assembling, it's said there is a note from the jury. There's also this renewed request for a public call-in line, citing Omicron:



Judge Nathan: The jury says, We are making progress and would like to end today at 5 pm and resume tomorrow at 9 am. Does anyone want to say anything? I have a view. Defense: Let them go. AUSA: We defer to the court. Judge Nathan: I'll tell, deliberate the weekend


[Note: Judge Nathan canceled the trial for three days to go to DC, told jurors they'd have this Thursday and Friday off. Now she's saying deliberated Dec 31 and Jan 1, if no verdict. Appealable?] Defense: Why tell them the weekend? Just the week.


Have started new thread, after long lull in courtroom, and a (UK-based) podcast. Judge Nathan is mentioning deliberation on Dec 31 and Jan 1:



Judge Nathan: I will say "everyday this week." [Apparently she'll only mention the weekend when it gets closer.] Defense: Thank you. Judge Nathan: I'll ask Ms. Williams to bring them out.



COURTROOM COVID CRUNCH TIME: In US v. #GhislaineMaxwell Trial Judge Nathan Mulls New Year's Eve & Day Deliberations As Inner City Press Asks Public Call-In Line - what of 3 days in DC? Story:




MaximumMaxwell jury delberations could go into New Years Eve and Day, resume after 3-day DC hiatus, stand-up in Foley Square while questions on GMax links of UN




MaximumMaxwell jury delberations into New Years Eve and Day, aftermath of 3-day DC hiatus, stand-up in Foley Square while questions on GMax links of UN /


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